Thanks for the reply GreenLine. I think the reason it's hard for me to grasp is because the biggest part of my fetish IS the smoke, Thick, rich, smelly is all good. Mock smoking to me would be as big of a turn-off as a 'social' smoker not inhaling. I've long since learned that there are many completely different interpretations of the smokming fetish other than my own. In fact that was my biggest shock by far after discovering the online SF sites in 99, not the fact that I wasn't alone like most here say.